June 2009

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I think it's supposed to read, avoid texting while DATING

I think it's supposed to read, avoid texting while DATING

This past weekend we lounged around at DABA headquarters doing what DABAs do while partaking in a group Hamptons detox, indulging in self-help book binging, marathon man over-analyzing discussions, work catch-up (from having ditched out on work early the last five Fridays), and sushi spending sprees. (Bt dubs the Hamptons detox is a chic new diet that calls for no burgers, fries, or blacking out for two days and gives you a healthy glow in less time than a roundtrip Jitney ride.) One of the founding DABAs had dished some tough love crackberry advice the previous night to another DABA Girl and each were presenting their closing arguments:

DABA Girl #1: You most definitely cannot become blackberry messenger friends while casually dating.

DABA Girl #2: I disagree. It is not any different from texting.

DABA Girl #1: What planet are you living on? When you blackberry messenger you can see when the other person has read your text message. It takes away all mystery, and all the fun from flirtexting. What if they don’t respond right away? What if they read your text and then don’t write back? Maybe for hours? I don’t care how many yoga classes you’ve gone to that day, you’re going to freak out.

DABA Girl #2:  You are officially an OCD DABA BBMer. I’ve dated enough finance guys to know that they are extremely busy at work. Text reply time is in no way reflective of their feelings. 

DABA Girl #3: Really? I always thought that there was a reverse correlation between text response time and their feelings for you. The shorter they take to write back the more they adore you.

DABA Girl #1: Oh no you didn’t just play the I’ve-dated-enough-finance-guys-to-know card. Lemme tell you my friend, I’ve dated enough finance guys to know that what DABA #3 so articulately explained is tres true.

Well, the debate was never resolved (the blondies from Gwyenth’s GOOP email last week emerged from the oven just in time to calm the brewing tension) and so we turn to you to settle the debate: should a blackberry messenger invite be the new engagement ring? Do not accept unless you expect to partake in a serious monogamous relationship. Or is it the new text message?

Send in your votes today.

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This piece, Welcome to your Quarterlife crisis, all rang a little too true. And as the finance guy who forwarded it to us said, “good article, basically about me.”

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We have to admit that sometimes we feel a little (or maybe a little more than a little) guilty about spending so much on shoes, clothes, etc. I mean, the price of one pair of Brian Atwoods is equivalent to how much it costs to support a child in a third world country for an entire year.* And by support we mean pay for their housing, food, clothing, and education. We don’t need that guilt on our shoulders- what if it keeps us from getting our beauty sleep? A serious fashion faux pas! That’s why we’re going to DABA girls Dang and Auerbach’s event tomorrow. What’s better than confession with cocktails. See you (and LL) there!

xo

The Daba Girls

*prices vary depending on the third world country.

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Just incase you missed my debut on NBC you can check it out on nbcnewyork.com.

We decided to talk about affordable dating tips because just a season ago, a first date could easily run over $300. It would begin with a three course dinner at one of New York’s nicest restaurants, after-dinner drinks as a swanky lounge, and flowers delivered to your office desk the next day (in all likelihood arranged by your date’s administrative assistant). Being taken on such an extravagant date in the current economic climate is not only unrealistic, it would cause unnecessary financial stress for everyone involved - we spent as much (if not more) on our outfits for these pre-recession dates.  This doesn’t mean your dating life should now be reduced to watching a movie while sitting in someone’s living room joint kitchen joint bedroom.  New York is full of spots that are light on the wallet and heavy on romance.  And remember, above all, women appreciate it when men put effort into planning a date.  So don’t think of these dates as being “affordable” but as being “thoughtful.”

Here are all of the tips since some didn’t make the minute thirty segment.

XO L

Tip #1: Go BYOB

  -Alcohol can really run up your tab at a restaurant, which is why BYOB is the way to go. Our personal favorite is Ivo and Lulus, located on Broome and Varick. Everything on the menu ranges from $12-$15, the duck pate is unmatched, the corkage fee non-existent, and the ambiance is romantic.  We also highly recommend Big Wong on Mott street in Chinatown, namely for their lobster with pan-fried noodles and lack of florescent lighting. Average dinner: $30 at either restaurant + wine ($12) = $43

Tip #2: Take her for a ride

  -Take the Staten Island Ferry around the Statue of Liberty. The ride is free and the view breathtaking. Although we don’t recommend bringing food on the trip, least your date get sea sick, packing a picnic for your final destination is a nice touch.   While we recognize the difficulty in pulling off a picnic in a non-cheesy fashion, we’re confident that as long as you don’t pack a basket full of heart shaped quiches, you can pull it off with your manhood intact. ($12) Bottle of wine + ($3) baguette + ($8) brie = $23

Tip #3: Give Her Some Sugar

-  As a former pastry sous-chef at Le Cirque, the creator of the dessert truck, Jerome Chang, knows better than to come between a woman and a sweet tooth craving.  The dessert truck serves fabulous desserts - all under $5. Our favorites are the warm chocolate bread pudding and vanilla crème brulee. Locating the dessert truck is half of the fun, but if you need some help you can check out his website, www.desserttruck.com, for his whereabouts.  Often spotted near Washington Square Park, eating dessert by the fountain in the park will undoubtedly set the mood.  Warning: although you are likely to encounter live music by the fountain, don’t bank on it being violins. 

Tip #4: Go on an trip

- If you have a whole day take the A train up to the Cloisters, which has a suggested donation of $20 per person.  Explore the museum and lounge around afterward in the garden.  Another great city escape is the funky and fun Mark Bar in Greenpoint, Brooklyn complete with pool, darts, and bingo on Wednesday nights. Beers are $3 and the menu includes pigs in a blanket for $5 and mac and cheese for $6.

Tip #5: Show Her a Secret Side of You

-Women love feeling privy to special information, hence our fondness for gossip and secrets. Introduce her to your favorite dive bar or neighborhood restaurant.  It’s not just a sandwich place, it’s your favorite sandwich at the deli your grandfather used to take your to.  We’re fond of New York mainstay Katz’s Deli, where you can sit at the When Harry Met Sally table and daydream with your date about how the two of you are going to recount the “how we met story” at your wedding.  Two Katz’s pastrami sandwiches ($15) + 2 root beer floats ($4) = $38  

Final Tip: Make a call

- If you really want to sweep her off her feet - call her the next day and tell her what a good time you had.  Note, we said call, not text or email!  Calling the next day instead of playing it cool and waiting 2 or 3 days will show her that you are confident.  Trust us, recession or no recession, women definitely respond to confidence. Phone call: $0

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Dear DABAs, 

I am a young, southern belle DABIT confused and discouraged with my past failures of snagging my very own FBF. I’m in great need of sage wisdom from my more experienced sisters.

It’s been the same story every time- I meet a guy, he’s attracted to me initially, calling and emailing me, dates ensue. But then, soon after, they stop asking to hang out, stop contacting me, and in the end, I’m left in the dark, wondering what had happened.

At first I thought it was maybe the age; they were still young and noncommittal. However, I just found out recently that one of them has settled down into a serious relationship!

I know your philosophy is: there’s nothing wrong w/ you, it’s “their loss” but after multiple failures, I can’t help but to wonder if I will be forever doomed.

I’m smart, sweet, attractive, and fun, and I’ve tried every trick in the book and nothing seems to work.

Are you sisters born with a special mutated gene, a god-given birthright that is needed to turn these finance boys into FBFs or is there still some secrets left that can change my streak of misfortune? 

I know I have a lot to learn and I am patient and willing to go through the whole training process. I also recognize that some of the learning can only be grasped through experience. Therefore, I want to take this summer to really refine and improve myself to becoming one step closer into a true DABA.

Any tips or must-dos you can provide to nurture your little DABITS? 

S Belle

Dear S Belle,

We applaud your commitment and desire to graduate from DABIT to DABA. So much so that we skipped Taco Tuesday at Rewind and Eugene Remm and Mark Birnbaum’s annual bday bash at Tenjune to compose this post. Below please find the five-step process to total DABA enlightenment. It’s not exactly FDA approved, actually we have no idea if it works at all (did you read It All Started When…?), but we feel like this should do the trick.

Step 1: Lose five lbs, get your nails did and your hair did too. Buy yourself something that will make you feel like the hottest thang since Adriana Lima on the Victoria Secret runway.

Step 2: Buy a pair of horse blinders. Put them on and do not take them off until we say so. These will keep you looking at any of the loser boys you’re hanging out with right now. You need to keep your eye on the prize.

Step 3: Go to your closest Barnes and Noble or library (be careful crossing streets with your blinders on). Get the following books:

                  -The Rules. Read it cover to cover. Yes it’s a little dated but until our revamped version gets published it will have to do.

                 -The Manual. If you don’t have a brother this is a must read.

                 -Why Him Why Her? This book is fascinating and will help you weed out all the FBFs that aren’t right for you.

The above books will thoroughly put you off to men for a while, at least long enough for us to get you to realize your DABA power (which is really what this is all about).

Step 4: Go back to the library. Exchange all the retarded self-books we just prescribed for below.

                  -What Color is Your Parachute? The key to DABA enlightenment is to realize that this is all about you. Your self-help research is not about figuring out how to get a guy back, it’s about refocusing the attention to you.            

                 -Are Men Necessary? The text within isn’t terribly groundbreaking but by repeating the title over and over you will start to understand how inconsequential men are and how it’s quite possible that the conspiracy theories in The Da Vinci Code might actually be true.

                 -The Female Brain. Our current obsession.

Step 5: Read the New York Times every day- front to back (although be particularly wary of anything you read about dating blogs- they’ve been known to get some facts wrong).

We’re guessing that by the time you’ve finished steps 1-5 it’s going to be close to the end of the summer and you’ll be cursing us for having just wasted your entire break that could have been spent at the beach unsuccessfully throwing yourself at boys. But trust us, you are now eons ahead of all the other DABITs out there. It’s all about realizing that you little DABIT hold the cards. The second that you truly believe this all the boys are going to come a running.

(Feel free to repeat Step 1 throughout the summer. Looking great never hurt anyone.) 

xo

The DABA Girls

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superstock_1439r-1087256 Unless you work at Chrysler or are one of the 9.4% of people  currently on the sideline, the week should have been solid.  Hell,  if you are unemployed, the week was probably spectacular.

 The market was up 2% and Morgan Stanley and Goldman Sachs  had their busiest month in over a decade helping ailing  companies issue boatloads of stock. Nothing better than being  busy these days. The amount of soul searching and “what am I  doing with my life?” questions have started to diminish rapidly in  tandem with this rally. Don’t be surprised if you start seeing some  swagger back in the young I-bankers step. Please don’t hold it  against them if they trip at first though, you can’t expect them to  get it right back after a year long hiatus.

 We also have more faith in the government now than ever.  It  turns out, our pal Treasury Secretary Timmy G actually has more  than his reputation on the line with his laundry list of alphabet  soup programs. When he moved to Washington, he left behind a  lovely home in Westchester which he has been unable to unload even below the $1.6m he paid for it in 2004. He’s so dedicated to his job in D.C. that he is now renting the abode for $7,500 a month, which apparently doesn’t cover his mortgage payments. (Hopefully he is investing the taxpayers money better than his own.)

We also hope the government stimulus continues to work its way thru and this does turn out to a “V” recovery. Or at least if it is a “W” recovery, we ask the market to have enough decency to wait to slide down until after Labor day - no reason to dampen a perfectly good Hamptons summer.  We went to Pink last weekend and the 2009 crop of Eastern European girls looked the same as last year.  At least one market has held up.

Brought to you by Anonymous Finance Guy (and occasional DABA Girl Sympathizer)

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Check out our piece on www.Recessionwire.com. Finally, the votes are in for who’s going to be the new FBF.

Love in the Time of Layoff: Bankers Are to 2007 as ________ Are to 2009

Last week we found ourselves on a two woman bar tour, consisting of just ourselves. We were flitting between two groups of guys, one group was at Spitzer’s and another across the street at ‘inoteca. After a glass of wine and some assorted cheeses at ‘inoteca, we would dash to Spitzer’s to chow on truffle mac and cheese with some Aussies. Had we not been so amused by our own antics, we would have gone home pleading a ‘breakfast meeting,’ well that and the cutie in a suit stationed in the doorway of Spitzer’s, who had been frantically blackberrying for the better part of an hour. So stoic was his demeanor that we just had to dub him the Downtown Centurion. One of us and we won’t say who (we do write for Dating a Banker Anonymous) was about to make her fourth entrance of the night when the Downtown Centurion deigned to speak to her. She had taken to switching up her hair and taking off her leather jacket that was “totally giving her street cred” every time she switched locations.

Downtown Centurion:  You forgot to take your hair down.

DABA Girl (smooth): Huh?

Downtown Centurion (eyes still on BlackBerry): You’ve been taking your hair down and putting your jacket on every time, you come in. Don’t mess up your flow now. Although personally, I’d be interested in seeing the jacket off and hair down combo, but maybe you’re saving that for later?

DABA Girl (pretending to read over his shoulder, her sense of cool perhaps rebounding a little too strong): Is she going to be jealous when she finds out you’re flirting with me?

Downtown Centurion: Depends which girl you’re asking about.

DABA Girl: Touché D-town Centurion.

Downtown Centurion: What did you just call me?

DABA Girl (ignoring his last question): So what do you do that demands you spend so much time glued to your blackberry?”

Downtown Centurion: “A girl asking what I do? How refreshing.”

DABA Girl: “I blog about finance guys and you are obviously one, I was searching for a tactful way to warn you that anything you do can and will be used against you in the blogosphere.”

Downtown Centurion: “Thanks for the warning.”

DABA Girl: “Anyhow what are you? I-banker, trader, private equity, in-house research analyst?”

Downtown Centurion: “I don’t really want to talk about what I do.”

DABA Girl: “Ohhhh, I get it. Laid off and interviewing. Sorry I brought it up.”

Downtown Centurion: “No, I’m employed I just don’t want to be defined by what I do, ok?

Me (coping some ‘tude right back at ‘em): “A defensive wall street guy? Refreshing.”

Banka’ please. People looking for a work-home balance don’t go into finance. He’s just tired of being the scapegoat of an over-leveraged nation.  A mere seven months ago this banker boy, along with all the others out there, would have proudly announced where they worked. Touted their place of employment as if it were an official seal of approval. Masters of the Universe with full, or almost full, heads of hair they were the most desirable guys to date and they knew it.

Fast forward past the mortgage based market crash, the 8.1% unemployment rate, and the “We’re in a recession” state of the nation. Finance guys are now the poster children for the fall of our nation’s greatness. They are the reason, or at least what everyone has decided is the reason in order to make themselves feel better about knowingly having bought a house well above their means, why we are in our current economic situation. Understandably these Masters are no longer so pumped about the Hello I’m Cute Finance Guy stickers stuck to their suit lapels.

DC, it turns out, is part of the new generation of finance guys. He “doesn’t want to be defined by” what he does. Oh, how times have changed. I vividly remembered a drunken banker in 2007 at Tenjune yelling from the rafters “I’m rich b*tch!

As out of favor as bankers have become, it’s surprising how many guys in other professions we hear from on www.dabagirls.com claiming to be the “new bankers.” For example:

There was a time when you couldn’t have a conversation with a transactional lawyer without them offering up an unsolicited explanation of why they chose law and not finance. Just this weekend I spotted a bankruptcy lawyer making it rain on a group of fashion PR girls with his business cards.

Let’s not forget about the doctors (they wouldn’t let us if we tried). Those shameless mofos might as well be tap dancing on David Kellermann’s grave. Their joy in being bumped up a few spots on Newsweek’s best marriage material list is frankly too celebratory for polite company.

The media men. They range from fast-talking Ari Emmanuel types to dark and stormy screenwriters—both quick to stress that, “Movies provide escapism! The people will want more of them in bad times!” If you say it enough times, maybe the financing needed to make a good action flick will magically appear.

Trust funders. Back in the ‘80’s they would explain breezily that they were in “imports and exports.” With the fall of the finance guy, they’ve dropped the act and will now proudly tell you that they don’t do jack but who cares—they’re recession proof! They’re not a bad replacement, unless of course you want to date someone with a sense of reality.

Entrepreneurs. Unable to hang on the mean street of Wall, they went West, to offices where yoga balls doubled as desk chairs. And man are they psyched about the more even playing field. You’d think Urkel just got took home Cosmopolitan’s Hottest Guy award.

Lastly, there are the unsung heroes of the recession: the Repo Men. We hear they’ve been making a killing taking back yachts and other luxury goods from people who have fallen behind in payments. It’s a dirty, thankless job, but somebody’s got to make a buck off it.

Still, we are not convinced that bankers are yesterday’s news.

Due to layoffs and work days that are now so long that in any other industry they would be considered double shifts, the supply of finance guys is way down. We’re not so naïve to think that demand for finance guys has zero elasticity or anything like that. Of course demand for finance guys has decreased with their reputation and bonuses being what they are, but we don’t think that it is enough to compensate for the large decrease in supply. This supply deficit will only increase the demand because rich boyfriends are like luxury goods— the more rare they become the more they are coveted. This is going to snowball into a major finance guy dating deficit, rendering them more desirable than ever.

Yep, you heard it here first. The DABA Girls predict that bankers are the new bankers.

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Dear DABAs,

Why be tied down for the summer to one FBF? Why wait for him to get done at the office every night when you can diversify and make sure your capital is always fully employed? Let me introduce you to a novel DABA Girl inspired concept for the summer season: the Banker Boy Toy. All of you should be familiar with a boy toy, he is cute and fun to hook up with but just isn’t boyfriend material. The BBT is the same, he just happens to work in finance (bank being a general term for all things finance because as far as they can tell, we don’t know the difference between a bank or a hedge fund or a private equity group).

There are plenty of nice, quality BBTs out there, and best of all when they start to bore you or they get laid off and their work visas expire, you don’t have to feel bad when they get deported. I usually date BBTs that could always make excellent FBFs but they just aren’t ready yet. Recent break ups, not enough confidence, too obsessed with their jobs… these are all excellent things for a BBT. Seeing as how it is summer and pretty much any decent guy with a head on his shoulders would avoid the exclusivity chat, all boys should be considered BBTs until Labor Day. Just don’t get too attached, that’s the number one way to ruin a good BBT. I’m not saying you can’t cuddle and watch movies together and share some moments, but just remember when he’s not with you; he’s with someone else (most likely his Bloomberg) so you should be too!

DABAs, finance is about one thing, and one thing only, having what other people want. The more other guys  want to be with you, the more your stock will go up and the more they will try to woo you and the more fun you will have. You don’t need to sleep with half of Manhattan but three or four honest, fun, cool BBTs should be enough to get you through the summer.

The key is to make sure that your BBTs are happy and ok with not having you to themselves is to remain as elusive as possible when discussing the other people you are seeing. If he straight up asks, look him squarely in the eyes and bat those DABA Girl lashes and ask him if he really thinks that it’s a fair question. Truth be told, he probably knows you are seeing other people (does he really think a girl as amazing as you isn’t? C’mon, he may be smitten but he’s not stupid). Usually, he will realize that he doesn’t really want to know the answer and since he’s not your FBF so he’ll get over it. Men are not like women, yes they will get mad if their gf cheats on them, but they usually don’t read too far into things.

Follow the BBT philosophy and hopefully by good ole September, you should have a handful of BBTs that have been properly vetted for future FBF status by the time you’re bringing those knee high boots out of storage. And, fellow DABAs, make sure to keep enough BBTs on hand year round to keep yourself secure and remind your FBF that if he’s not there, you won’t be lonely.

XO

Your DA(few)BBTs Girl

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We hear from men in every occupation claiming to be the new FBFs. There isn’t anyone we’ve heard more from than the doctors. Finally we get an endorsement that interests us.

Dear DABAs,

Having left New York to go to university in London in the golden years, I have experienced all grades and degrees of FBFs. Going to school in the “City’s nursery”, our first year drinking games taught me financial linguistics and since day one I acquired a radar for slicked-back hair in smoky basements (in the days before the smoking ban). My experience might be a bit different than yours as I am not sure whether FBFs act the same on either side of the Atlantic - but let me tell you, some may have been a bit charmingly befuddled, but were more Bud Fox than Hugh Grant.

I settled down with a FBF that I had met in my financial economics lecture. His part time internship in Canary Wharf made it always impossible to find him. Instead of with me he spent his time at the Wolsley and at crowded tables surrounded by bottle-poppin’ girls. I couldn’t take it and gave him the choice of considering a career at a consultancy rather than a bank - he chose the bank. A couple weeks later I met a 5-10 years older associate from one of the major banks. I thought the age difference would make a difference but should have known what was to come when at 2am rather than offering to take me home, he jumped in a cab and went back to work. It ended with a dramatic slamming of door scene - after which I had to humiliatingly return to get my things. Fast forward past a couple artsy Shoreditch types (who know their Foucault as much as their skinny jeans) and an American venture-capitalist (DABAs - a friendly word of advice, everyone should move to Seattle) and I eventually found a young surgeon.

He has everything you know and love in your FBFs - the ego, the competitive spirit, the worldliness, the attention to detail, the disposable income. Yes the hours are just as horrendous, instead of a blackberry, he carries his pager (how 1992) - but I cannot overestimate how much the years of studying anatomy pay off in the bedroom.

Gird your loins DABAs and start subscribing to the New England Journal of Medicine,

DASA

 

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