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Short skirt = short wait?

The shorter the skirt, the shorter the wait?

It has come to our attention over here at DABA Girl headquarters that there is some confusions as to why exactly DABAs are Anti-Bottle Service. Isn’t bankers spending their hard earned mullah on over-priced vodka exactly the sort of thing that DABA Girls stand for. No, pumpkin, no. You just don’t get it.

“Is it because you DABA Girls don’t like vodka redbulls?”

“Partially, luvbug”

“Is it because you think there is something vaguely pagan about dancing in a crowded circle around a solitary table topped with a veritable grey goose totem pole, as though worshipping the gods of the quasi-random hook up?”

“Bizarre no doubt, but still one off from our precise gripe. Come with us on a journey back in time.”

The year 2001. A certain DABA Girl was still in college but spent many a weekend visiting her i-banking boyfriend in New York. I-bankers were of course around in 2001, but bottle service was but a glimmer in their blood shot eyes.

Yes, DABAs it’s true. There was a time when bankers existed but bottle service did not. Hard to fathom one without the other nowadays. It was a magical time. Picture the velvet rope scene outside of a XYZ trend-o-rama club. Hear the roar of the bouncer, “Three dudes no ladies? Just go home!” See the line of guys waiting to get in. Now see girls prancing to the front of the line and being ushered in without having to explain to Alex that they were invited to Joe Schmoe’s table. That’s right, in 2001 the clubs were all BYOB – bring your own babe.

I would escort my boyfriend in, ditch my coat, tossle my hair before selflessly trooping back out to get his buddy in as well. But then came along bottle service forever altering the club culture history. It used to be just about being cool and attractive. Sexy girls rolled right in - no questions asked. Guys who wanted in had to be accompanied by girls. The power was in our hands, which left men scrambling to convince us that they were worthy of our precious Friday night.

Bottle service changed all that. Why you ask? Because men are willing to pay for sex (or rather a better chance at sex) and woman aren’t (or rather don’t need to). If you are willing to buy a bottle of grey goose with a 500% markup, then a club is willing – justifiably – to let you in even though you are in violation of the BYOB policy. Once on the inside, guys have (a) access to girls and (b) enough vodka to lessen the standards of any female in their general vicinity. The net result: these guys odds of getting laid increases (some DABA statisticians argue that the increase was in perfect correlation to the vodka markup, we’re still running the numbers on that).

Women on the other hand (a) didn’t need to buy bottles to get in back then and (b) have never jumped on the bottle service train because when forced to decide between paying for bottle service and buying a new _______, going on a trip to_________, donating to _________, or eating at __________, ladies are always going to chose __________. Meanwhile, gentlemen are always going to chose increased odds of getting laid over __________. And that dear DABAs is the how bottle service became a dude thing, clubs came to prefer males over females, and how New York’s nightlife took a turn for the worst. We know it will be hard at first, especially for our baby DABITS, who don’t know of anything better, but take the first step, and Just Say No to Bottle Service.

The movement starts here!

(Now that we have officially given up bottle service, who remembers Sway?!)

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Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?

Dear readers,

We know that we have been conspicuously absent as of recent. But don’t think that this means that we haven’t been thinking about you. No, in fact we have a gift for you. Quite possibly the best Christmas present of all. One of faith, hope, inspiration, and there is enough for everyone. My friends, we have come up with our most genius idea of all and we are sharing it with you this holiday season.

As of this second, we are implementing a city wide….

MAN BAN

Through countless trials and tribulations of our own and those of our readers we have come to realize that the only way in which the female population is going to regain power over this city of boys (we refuse to call them men) is to no longer give them what they want. Yep, that’s right. NO MORE SEX. Seriously.

Just think about it. What if every single woman out there stopped having sex. No more one night stands. No more casual hook-ups. No more f*ck buddies. No more ex-sex. No more let’s start having sex and if it’s good then attempt to backtrack into a relationship. The boys of New York would have to start working for it!

We realize that right about now you’re thinking we’re insane. Those DABA Girls have officially lost it. But before you go and denounce all that is DABA, think about this: what if the roles were reversed? We’ll put it in terms that all women can understand. Instead of sex let’s say that men had something that every woman in New York wanted: shoes. And not just any old pair of shoes, they had unlimited supplies of the most coveted Louboutins, Brian Atwoods, Manolos, and Jimmys… Now, imagine if every man in New York just gave you a pair of shoes when you went home with him. You didn’t have to work for it, you didn’t have to commit to him, you didn’t have to call him, you didn’t have to do anything you didn’t want to do and you still got the goods.

Imagining that this scenario is reality, does it help you understand why THE MAN BAN has to be implemented? If every man was just giving away his designer shoes what would make you want to stay and get to know them? Nothing!!! You would be too preoccupied in going out to get another pair of shoes. Worst of all, it wouldn’t seem like such a big deal to have received this season’s black patent studded platforms because you would know that you could get a different pair just going home with another guy.

Listen closely. As of this second, NO MORE SEX. Trust us, we have already implemented the Man Ban in our own lives and the results -frankly - have been astounding.

Just think of all there is to gain!

No more analyzing why he hasn’t called, why he hasn’t committed, or wondering how many other girls he’s sleeping with. Our heads are clearer (don’t worry, we’re currently speaking to Bloomberg about subsidizing vibrators for the single ladies of New York) and we have copious amounts of free time (that used to be spent over analyzing his noncommittal behavior) to do things like run marathons, volunteer at homeless shelters, write books, climb the corporate ladder, and perfect our chocolate chip cookie recipes.

Yes, dear readers, we have officially figured out what women everywhere have been trying to figure out: how to have it all. NOW, GET TO IT! Delete those numbers, cancel those sex dates, leave those loser boys sitting at the bar!

2010 is the year of the DABA MAN BAN (that is of course, until we get our FBF so tightly wrapped around our fingers that he morphs into a 3 carat diamond ring).

P dot s, if you simply must have sex please have the courtesy to do so out of New York. Flights to L.A. are cheap.

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Ladies and gents,

There are always signs at the beginning of a relationship. Some signs say that the other person is still heartbroken from their last relationship (they can’t stop talking about their ex), some signs say that they are dating other people (they unknowingly repeat stories), some signs suggest that it’s never going to work even though the other person is perfectly nice (they ask you what “gnocchi” is), and some signs say that you should Get.Out.Now. The below text message exchange from one of our readers is a prime example of the last scenario.

xoxo

The DABA Girls

Run ladies run! (after you've had dinner on him)

Run ladies run! (after you've had dinner on him)

Last night I went on what I thought was a fabulous date with a dashing investment banker who I had met over port at the Capital Grille the night before.  I returned home, excited for our next adventure when he returned from several cross-country business trips.  Then this text message “conversation” (and I use the term loosely) occurred.  My thoughts in italics.

B: You have a way, but really, you are a very beautiful and smart woman….I find it a bit peculiar….nice but…I am not a frivolous person (What the heck??  Also, this implies that I am a frivolous person)

Me: Thank you for the compliments (although “peculiar” falls into the “prim” category…not quite sure whether that’s supposed to be good J )! (We had been joking about my grandma calling my Christmas decorations “prim”)

B: I would like to think that our meeting was auspicious, a romantic perhaps…you have piqued my attention and that‘s rare don’t want to waste anyone’s time (Ummmm…this is our first date…)

Me: I spend my time just how I please and I feel blessed I had the opportunity to spend it with you J (Feeling insulted but trying to be tactful….and I really did have a great time on our date.)

B: Fair enough, I hope we get a lot more and have great experiences

Me: Me too! (Not so sure this is true after this weird text exchange!!) Sweet dreams!

B: Good night chat soon ;)

The next morning:

B: Good morning, think I may owe you an apology from last night… (ya think???)

Me: I’m all for honesty…hope your morning is going well! (“Honesty” meaning “thanks for the warning that you may be a nut job”)

B: I got the feeling you were uncomfortable with my advances

Me: I’m old-fashioned in more than my taste in restaurants J (Sloooowwww down buddy…I’ve known you for two days)

B: I understand and appreciate that again I am sorry if I made you uncomfortable, I enjoy your company and look forward to learning more…!

Me: I had a fabulous time with you and look forward to hearing about your adventures when you return J

A few hours later:

B: Would it be too much to ping you from time to time? (I have no idea what this means—grammar and spelling his.  I have not written back.)

DABA ladies, please advise.  My brief foray into the world of dating a banker has been unusual, to say the least.  Should I give him another chance or invest my time elsewhere?

Dear H,

Text message conversations are the worst!
Here’s the deal: he’s really, really  insecure. He was probably a loser in high school and still hasn’t gotten over the ridicule placed upon him by the ever cool football players. Now to be fair, everyone has some insecurities, but this guy is on a different level. Insecure guys will never believe that they deserve you, which means that they will eventually ditch you for a less attractive girl. Get.Out.Now.
Btw, ping means text.
XOXO TDG

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This site is absolutely brilliant! Right on target with everything a girl goes through who has a FBF. I have been in a relationship on and off with a very VIP FBF for nearly 6 years and let me assure you the OFF times were 99.9% due to his work related issues/personality “disorders” created by work issues, the giant EGO that came from all of the money he may as well have been printing on his own press, the associated Rolls Royces, Bentleys, Astons, blah blah blah that allowed him to have whatever girl he wanted at any given time and then the downfall of the empire along with everyone else in the country when the economy crashed. The beauty in that, even though he is now rebuilding JUST fine is that he learned a little something called humility. Now, as any GF to a FBF knows, “humble” and “compassion” are not 2 of the most common words in the FBFs vocab (their gag reflexes generally go off at the meer mention), but even the slightest hint of it now that he went through it all is enough to make me believe that all of the ups and downs we have been through have been worth while. Not to mention that I can still write him text messages while at Barneys demanding a new Prada bag for my upcoming bbday and feel just fine about it, so all in all we are both winners :) And yes, to all the cynics on this freaking site who do not seem to get it I am a very well educated, empowered early 30s lady who makes a 6 figure income on my own and has owned my own property/condo for almost 10 years now, it is with loving eyes wide open that I accept the trials and tribulations (he literally SCREAMED at me while eating dinner at his house a few nights ago when I had the audacity to ask him what that little jingle was that he has as his cell phone ring) of being with an FBF to reap the benefits (he is the strongest, most amazingly smart man I know) and feel confident that the relationship we have built is one of true love, care, and unconditional support. But what’s the harm in having an awesome site like this to vent and feel understood by other lovely women in similar situations? Absolutely nothing! Especially since it WAS my FBF who turned me onto this site in the first place, ha!

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Dear DABITs,

Please read the following articles about texting and dating. This is should be sufficient material to inspire you to never engage in the nonsense that exists in the textosphere dating world.

Hope this helps (and doesn’t result  in too many of you to immediately moving out of New York).

http://nymag.com/news/features/sexdiaries/2009/60297/index1.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/opinion/03brooks.html?_r=2&em

xo

The DABA Girls

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This is really Mona’s story, so I’ll let her take it from here…

I coaxed (read: guilt tripped) Lori back into the cab and we went to The Standard as planned.

We walked into the beer garden weaving through the thick B & T crowd who must have just read about The Standard on Urban Daddy. As luck would have it, one of my Mr. B-strings was playing ping pong. (If you’re musing to yourself: “that sounds like too much of a coincidence to be true,” you obviously haven’t been to the Standard or you would know that it really has become a high school cafeteria.)

Before Mr. B-string served, we locked eyes. He didn’t even crack a smile- damn it, failed for the first time by my false eyelashes! He turned his attention back to his game and served that ping pong ball with a confident aloofness that had he exhibited while we were dating he probably would have been an actual contender. While Lori and I were milling around waiting for boys to get the courage to come talk to us, I remembered that I had kinda had a good time with B-string. He had called me his “little mermaid” after all… I decided to go talk to him.

Attempting to reignite some of our old repartee. I opened with, “Hey merman.”

Despite his best efforts to remain stoic, his eyes lit up like a menorah on the eighth day of Hanukkah. He pulled me in for a warm bear hug and kissed me on the forehead. I lingered in his arms, relishing in that old familiar feeling of having the upper hand. I forgot how good it felt. “Maybe this is better than love,” I thought to myself. The banter began. Not exactly the panty dropping banter that my MVP FBF delivers, but it was better than talking to the guidos at the bar (p dot s, standards at the Standard have plummeted in the last three weeks).

I easily persuaded him and his friends to invest in bottle service at Simyone Lounge. I know I said I was sooooo over bottle service, but I figured as long as I was giving B-string a second chance I could give Redbull vodkas a second chance as well.

Cut to I Got a Feeling bumpin’ and me surrounded by B-string and all of his slow-story telling friends. I mean, why does it take sooooooo long to get to the punch line??? T-t-t-today junior! Thanks to reeling my B-stringer back in, my relationship anxiety was down to a three Xanax level low, and I felt great for about half a second until….I spotted whom else but my MVP FBF (the one who I was pretty sure was going to dump me now that I had dumped all my B-stringers, ahhhhh the merry-go-round of love)

From the looks of things he was having a guy’s night out, which entailed a fair number of Bottle Poppin’ Girls. Was this a coincidence? Had he told me he was coming here? Or had I known, forgotten, and subconsciously showed up here? At that moment I decided to move to Alaska and save the wildlife because I obviously could no longer save myself.

B-stringer must have sensed that it was my turn to make a run for it (directly into Bristol Palin’s baby daddy’s toned arms) because he took the opportunity to shove his tongue down my throat.  As he lunged towards me, my MVP FBF spotted me.

Slow motion F*************CCCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!! was all I could hear myself say.

My therapist was right.  Diffusing my feelings for my MVP FBF by keeping a B-string boyfriend around was not worth jeopardizing my relationship with the MVP FBF, but wait, without a B-string boyfriend on the side my relationship with the MVP FBF would surely self-destruct. Is this what a catch-69 is?

I quickly formulated my excuse: I had clearly been rape kissed. I mean, he saw the whole thing go down. There could be no doubt that I was the victim. Rape kissing is a legit problem (especially in the Meat Packing District) I don’t know where his mouth had just been, he could have just ingested a Kaluaha and milk- I’m lactose intolerant! He could have just eaten a PB & J sandwich- hasn’t he heard that peanut allergies are rampant in America?!?

After I extracted myself from Mr. B-Strings clutches. I strolled over to my MVP FBF prepared to commiserate with him on the rape kissing pandemic.  I was in the middle of a long-winded explanation of the dire consequences of rape kissing someone with a sever nut allergy when my MVP FBF interrupted my soliloquy, to deliver the following gem:

“Don’t worry babe, it’s totally cool. We’re just having fun, right?”

To make a long story longer, MVP was relieved that I was also dating other people. As for me, it turns out that the news that my FBF and I were “just having fun” was actually worse than ruining the relationship by getting caught with my B-stringer. I walked out of SL reeking of smoke, sweat, spilled Redbull, and the GAP perfume that the bathroom attendant had doused me in.

And that my friends, is the true smell of desperation.

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THE SCENE:

A 20-something year olds girl’s apartment, with clothing hanging from the rafters- a tell tale sign of a woman in crisis, who is not going to be where she said she’d be when she said she would be there. Mona is frantically changing outfits when I let myself into her apartment.

Me: “What are you doing here? I thought we were meeting at the Ace Hotel. I knew your “En route” text message was a ruse!”

Women are emotionally porous and the anxiety in the room is palpable to us both.  I look at Mona and we both let out a scream: “AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!” Mona’s cat makes a beeline for the nearest exit. She’s in heat and our estrogen levels were far too high for her.

Mona: “I’m freaking out!”

Me: “You can’t be having a freak out because I’m freaking out. Why are you freaking out?”

Mona: “Probably because all I consumed today was a lethal combination of Starbucks, Orthotricyclen, and Jujubes — which prompted the realization that I prematurely cut my B-String boyfriends out of the picture.”

Me: “Why in the name of God would you ever get rid of your B-string?!? That’s just reckless.”

Mona: “Well, when I lied and told my therapist that I was doing as she instructed and making myself emotionally available by just dating one person, she was so proud of me that I felt like maybe it was actually a good idea.”

Me: “I don’t get it- why would you lie to your therapist?”

Mona: “Helllooo, I’m in therapy because I have approval issues. I’ll say anything if it means acceptance”

Me: “So let me get this straight- you dumped boyfriends #2 through #8- the only thing giving you your edge- over boyfriend #1?”

Mona: “I know, rookie mistake. Now tell me why you spent the last three hours trying on everything in your closet and starring at yourself in the mirror in self loathing downward spiral.”

Me: “I broke up with Nelson- or he broke up with me.  The details are not important, but what is important is that I have been layering on the self-tanner ever since!”

Mona: “OK, OK. EVERYONE REMAIN CALM! This can all be solved by gratuitous male attention from some randoms. We need to go out ASAP!”

IN CAB:

Cruisin’ up Washington Street back to the Standard.

Me: “Cabbie, pull over!” I try to jump out of the cab and make a run for it. Mona grabs me by the collar before I can get out of the cab.

Mona: “What are you a teenage runaway?  Get back in the cab!”

Me: “I’m in no state to flirt. Trust me, you’re better off alone. I’m a liability.”

Mona: “OK OK. EVERYONE REMAIN CALM! Now, who’s the best wing woman ever?”

Me: “I am…”

Mona: “Who gets more phone numbers than you?”

Me: “No one…”

Mona: “And who’s going to wrangle in a new boyfriend tonight?”

Me: “Dude, I’m only going to attract bottom feeders tonight, I reek of desperation.”

Mona: “That’s not desperation you’re smelling, that’s self tanner.”

Me: “OMG, you’re right. Self-tanner is the smell of desperation!”

END SCENE

TO BE CONTINUED….

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A few Friday nights ago we pondered the question of our “best dates ever” over late night tater tots at Daddy-O’s. We don’t know if an apparent dearth of great dates, or the drink we had just invented called Le Vodka Surprise was to blame, but we had a difficult time staying on topic. We had tales galore of bad dates to rehash, but couldn’t pinpoint a date that could be described as The.Best.Date.Ever.

Thankfully, Le Vodka Surprise fried potato combo eventually worked like truth serum on our otherwise prone-to-denial brains and we begrudgingly admitted that our all-time favorite dates were with the very same men that inspired our blog. After publicizing how the recession reduced them to mojo-less stress-balls, we can’t help but to hope this retrospective in some way rectifies some of the emotional damage we inflicted upon those two poor schmoes by dating us.

Kristen Flanagan reports for Glamour: Glamour.com

Eight hours of conversational bliss

We had met once before, but this was our first date. It had taken weeks of texting and both actual and fake rescheduling—a girl can never be too hard to get—to finally get together. I don’t remember exactly where we went, but what I do remember was conversation that could only be described as magical. It was laden with quick, snappy banter, and one story begot three more. I could barely get in my signature “So one time at Oktoberfest…” story amiss all of his “So one time when I was working in Asia…” stories. The date lasted for eight hours without one awkward silence—surely a world record.

What could be better than a surprise getaway?

Being the country-lovin’ gal I claim to be—a pretense half based in truth and half part of my “look what a cool down-to-earth chick I am” shtick—it makes sense that my number one date wasn’t in the city. It was during Fashion Week. My date aptly observed my quickly rising stress levels and decided to whisk me away to the Berkshires. While he put our promptly packed bags in the train’s overhead compartment, I called my coworkers pleading the flu and a self-imposed quarantine—for their sake, of course.  (And if they’re reading this, I’m hoping they’ll forgive me in the name of love.) He and I spent the weekend eating numerous lobster rolls and then swimming in the lake—without waiting the recommended hour. The thrill of skipping work and forgoing my childhood lifeguard warning was just enough excitement to really heat things up.

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Who wants to hang with these d-bags? I do, I do!!

The pictures from last year's event indicate that trouble is going to ensue...

Dear DABA-ophiles,

The organizers of the Refi Rock! - BEF Halloween Party just this moment gave us 25 extra tickets! Obviously our initial thoughts were to give them to all our ex-boyfriends so they could come and see us looking fabulous- but then we remembered that the Refi Rock party is thrown by finance guys for other finance guys- obvi our exes will already be there…

Instead we’re inviting you dear readers. Come and meet our sloppy seconds (just kidding, they’re great, we’re just heartbreakers) and have a drink with us. Send us an email and let us know why you should be put on the list.

xoxo

The DABA Girls

p dot s, of course if you can also buy your own ticket at the above link. And why not as the proceeds go to fight cystic fibrosis and are only $40 (i.e., the same amount you paid for three tequila shots Avenue last Thursday night).

EVENT DETAILS

Refi Rock! - BEF Halloween Party - October 29 2009

2nd Annual Refi Rock Halloween Event
Presented by the BEF Young Professionals Board
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009
Time: 7-11 PM
Location:  Terminal 5
610 West 56th Street, NY, NY 10019

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But not us. No, we’re a lost cause apparently. No surprise really, we’re about to give up on ourselves…

Let us know if you go on the show so we can tivo it and try to learn something, anything.

From Chadwick, the Dr. Phil intern:

I work with the “Dr. Phil” show and am very interested in speaking with you regarding a show that we are working on for Wednesday, October 21st 2009. Our show will focus on the problems that the collapse of Wall Street and the housing market are causing on marriages. I have read the blog entries on your website, Dating a Banker Anonymous, and would like to  talk to you about possibly having some of the couples on your blog appear on the show. We are looking for couples who are currently experiencing tension and stress in their marriages due to the change in their economic status, and want help moving forward. Please email me at drphil.intern@cbsparamount.com to discuss further details. I look forward to hearing from you and possibly working together.


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